George Braithwaite vs. John Schneider - U2400 Singles - Table Tennis Video

George Braithwaite serves.

George Braithwaite vs. John Schneider

Under 2400 Singles

U.S. National Table Tennis Championships

Las Vegas Convention Center

Las Vegas, Nevada

14 December 2005

John Schneider vs. George Braithwaite - wmv Video - (220 Mbytes, 30:43 Minutes)

John Schneider receives.

John Schneider vs. George Braithwaite

See George's close up service and let call at the 18:25 minute mark.

See John's slow motion paddle toss at the 18:50 minute mark.

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John Schneider vs. George Braithwaite - US National Table Tennis Championships

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24 of 27 Posted 11:24 PM	Msg 20332.24 reply to 20332.22
From MarcoHere To Robert Trudell (mesapong)

I'm going to download this one. I really like both these guys' games.

M

25 of 27 Posted 6:28 AM	Msg 20332.25 reply to 20332.17
From cpbmd To MarcoHere

Hi Marco

Nice to see you back in the forum. I remember you talking about a book that helped you with the mental aspect of your tennis game. Would you please remond me of the name of the book. Did you find it useful for TT.

Merry Christmas

.Constantine

Take Care

Constantine

26 of 27 Posted 8:06 AM	Msg 20332.26 reply to 20332.22
From MarcoHere To Robert Trudell (mesapong)

Great match between Georgeo Braithwaite and John Schneider. Check out the point at 25:39, that was some point! How does George move like this at the age of 72? Unbelievable.

Marco

27 of 27 Posted 8:12 AM	Msg 20332.27 reply to 20332.25
From MarcoHere To cpbmd Unread

the book you are thinking of was probably "The Inner Game of Tennis" but I have found something much better now. I recommend "With Winning In Mind" it is much more clear and concise than "the inner game" which was by comparison very obtuse and obscure.

I had also spoken of Brad Gilbert's book on Tennis called "Winning Ugly" which I still recommend.

"With Winning in Mind" really has some good info in it, specifically in how to play your best under pressure. This is something that I really needed. I started seeing results in 24 hours, literally. I received the book the day before a tournament and on the next day I played great. I played very well in Vegas too. More importantly, the book has some great ideas on how to reach the next level. I took notes on myself throughout Vegas. I realized that I need to be able to return fast serves to my backhand better. I also realized that I need better drop shots and flips on my backhand side (my forehand side is fine). I have purchased a tournament table and a robot (got the paddle palace 988 one), and as soon as it arrives I'll be doing some extra drills. I'll also be working on some new backhand serves, the same ones that bothered me a lot. I'll be doing all of this systematically, as described in the book. We'll see how the results go.

I'm also getting rid of the Bryce FX and replacing it with Nittaku Hammond Pro Alpha. I picked up 1 sheet in Vegas, and have been doing some serves with it at my home and already I can tell that it has more tackiness in the topsheet, though the sponge is actually more firm. It seems promising so far. I'm looking to keep the same speed as the Bryce FX but add a bit more spin so I can control the slow loops and touch shots better. I've also grown tired of spending $90 every 2 months. At $28 a sheet I'm hoping this Hammond Pro Alpha will work out. I'll have some reviews later on.

Here's a link to the book:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1885221479/qid=1135177708/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-4649257-7888604?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

Marco

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Discussion 22007

1 of 8 Posted Jun-24 12:20 PM	Msg 22007.1
From DiegoLA To ALL

Dear Table Tennis Friends

It is my sad duty to inform you that our friend John Schneider has passed away. Last Sunday, Father's Day, John ended his life.

Diego Schaaf
Westside Table Tennis Club

2 of 8 Posted Jun-24 2:21 PM	Msg 22007.2 reply to 22007.1
From theoldduffer To DiegoLA

Truely sad and a lost to not only our community.
tOD

3 of 8 Posted Jun-24 2:28 PM	Msg 22007.3 reply to 22007.1
From CHIEFBR To DiegoLA

That is sad to hear. I imagine that is why he has not posted here in a long time, he used to post here a lot. Any information on how he passed away? Any illness, he did not seem that old. You say he "ended his life". Unfortunate tragedy to his family and to all TT.

Chief

4 of 8 Posted Jun-24 6:34 PM	Msg 22007.4 reply to 22007.1
From Applegri1 To DiegoLA Unread

john was one of the few people, if not the only one, who was liked by everyone here on this forum..

most liked and most informative..

regards

There IS only one Rick Anderson

5 of 8 Posted Jun-24 8:20 PM	Msg 22007.5 reply to 22007.1
From heavyspin To DiegoLA Unread

This is sad and stunning. I believe John was only 47.

6 of 8 Posted 11:11 PM	Msg 22007.6 reply to 22007.5
From Applegri1 To heavyspin Unread

heavy

someone (maybe yourself) should tell us a bit about John. I only knew him as a "poster"...and a very likable and informative one.... Im sure he was a million things more than that.

i am going to start a thread...add to it if you can

There IS only one Rick Anderson

7 of 8 Posted 11:24 PM	Msg 22007.7 reply to 22007.1
From Robert Trudell (mesapong) To DiegoLA Unread

Wow. Thats hard to believe.

Was there some significance in mentioning Father's Day?

John was helpful both on and off the forum.

--Rob

8 of 8 Posted 11:28 PM	Msg 22007.8 reply to 22007.5
From Sean P. O'Neill (SPONeill1) To heavyspin Unread

http://sean.ping-pong.com/wp/?p=52#more-52

What a huge loss for LA and the US.

Dean Galardi
Paul Raphael
Rutledge Barry
John Schneider

plus

Jimmy McClure
Grady Gordon
Bob Vid from Portland

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Obituary - John Schneider

Posted by Sean on June 24th, 2006

John Schneider I read on the about.com - table tennis/ping-pong forum this tragic news today.

Dear Table Tennis FriendsIt is my sad duty to inform you that our friend John Schneider has passed away. Last Sunday, Father’s Day, John ended his life.

Diego Schaaf
Westside Table Tennis Club

Such a tragic loss for our American Table Tennis Community. John was known to his admirers as “the answer man” at about.com’s table tennis forum. If there was a table tennis question or statistic he could find the answer and you were sure it was right.

John was a tremendous help to me as an Olympic researcher in Athens. He provided key factoids on the players that were used daily by Don Chevier and Bill Clement. When I wasn’t sure of a stat I emailed him privately and he came back with 2-3 sources for the information being fact or fiction.

John was also an equipment tester for www.ping-pong.com/ttpioneers. He knew every pip inside and out and we loved being associated with such a knowledgable and solid player.

The last time I saw John was in Las Vegas where one of my students, Justen Yao played him in one of the rating events. The consumate sportsman, John never gave an inch and battled with all his brains and brawn.

This year table tennis has lost: Grady Gordon, Bob Viducich, and now John Schneider.

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9 of 10 Posted 12:13 AM	Msg 22007.9 reply to 22007.8
From frontosa1 To ALL

I got this email from Adam Bobrow earlier today. Unfortunately, I was away and just read it a few minutes ago.

I>>t is my sad duty to inform you that our friend John Schneider passed
away last Sunday, June 18th.

Funeral services will be held on Friday, June 30th at 9am at

MOUNT SINAI HOLLYWOOD HILLS
5950 Forest Lawn Drive
Los Angeles, CA 90068
http://www.mt-sinai.com /directions/

His sister Laurie mentioned that she'd be happy to
speak with any of his table tennis friends.
You can contact Laurie Schneider-Jacobs at <cam2blvlaurie@yahoo.com>

Please feel free to pass his along to any people whom you feel would like to pay their respects or should be in the know.>>

Gerry

10 of 10 Posted 12:32 AM	Msg 22007.10 reply to 22007.5
From Robert Trudell (mesapong) To heavyspin Unread

> This is sad and stunning. I believe John was only 47.

John cared about the game, he cared about us; we cared about him.

I'll miss him.

http://tt.mainstreet.net/ttoutpost/George_Braithwaite_vs_John_Schneider_US_Nationals.htm

--Rob

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Discussion 22009

1 of 9 Posted Jun-24 11:13 PM	Msg 22009.1
From Applegri1 To ALL

for those that knew him...what was he like?

regards
There IS only one Rick Anderson

2 of 9 Posted Jun-25 7:37 AM	Msg 22009.2 reply to 22009.1
From petermoo To Applegri1

I think Schneider's passing will be a great loss to the forum as well as all the other forums in which he was a regular contributor.

John has always been the ultimate facts man and a tremendous asset and resource to all who use this forum. There was no doubting his dedication and love for the game.

I will miss him greatly.

Rest in Peace John Schneider.

Petermoo

3 of 9 Posted Jun-25 7:45 AM	Msg 22009.3 reply to 22009.1
From petermoo To Applegri1

I posted this a few years back when John had first dissapeared from the forum..

http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=messages&tsn=1&tid=13460&webtag=ab-tabletennis

Has anybody here,
Seen my old friend John,
Can you tell me, where he's gone,
He helped a lotta people,
But it seems that good John gone,
I just looked around,
And he's gone,

Has anybody here,
Seen my old friend Misha,
Can you tell me, where he's gone,
He posted a lotta information,
But it seems likenow he's gone,
I just checked the forum,
And he's gone,

Has anybody here,
Seen my old friend Chunglau,
Since the worlds in Paris seems he's gone,
He translateda lot for the people,
But now the websites gone,
I just browsed the website,
And he's gone,

With apologies to Harry Belafonte, I dedicate this song to world class posters (seemingly moved on to a higher forum) Ironmike (Misha), Chunglau and John Schneider.

Still investigating the rumoured extinction of a certain lefty Reptile.

4 of 9 Posted Jun-25 9:26 AM	Msg 22009.4 reply to 22009.2
From Applegri1 To petermoo Unread

"There was no doubting his dedication and love for the game."

after seeing robs video of him and braithwaite...he (john) looks like he liked defending.....though mr. b might have forced that upon him (?)
There IS only one Rick Anderson

5 of 9 Posted Jun-25 9:52 AM	Msg 22009.5 reply to 22009.1
From Cole_Ely To Applegri1

He was going as I was coming, but it seemed the guy had a terrabyte of TT knowledge.

6 of 9 Posted Jun-25 10:46 AM	Msg 22009.6 reply to 22009.1
From DRIVEPEN To Applegri1

John was...the very first person at the Westside club to introduce himself to me, 4 years ago. He had me pegged as "Drivepen" almost instantly... afterall, how many lefthanded, 6'3", white, penholders are there? I asked who he was, and he said "Some have called me "The answer man", and my reply was "Oh, you must be John." John always was a bit cryptic with me, that's what I'll miss the most, trying to figure out what angle he was coming from. Goodbye, John.

Drivepen

"My head is on loose...but my shoes are tight"

7 of 9 Posted Jun-25 11:18 AM	Msg 22009.7 reply to 22009.6
From heavyspin To ALL

I've only met him briefly in person at Las Vegas. I played against him once in a doubles final at the US Nationals. He inspected my paddle before the match. A little while after the match he pointed out to me that my rubber at that time was not listed on the USATT approved list. I had no idea since it had the ittf logo and apparently neither did the high ranking official, who also inspected my paddle. I got the impression that he had that list completely memorized. John was very classy to let it go and not mention it until well after the match. He wasn't lodging any complaint, he just wanted me to be informed.

8 of 9 Posted Jun-25 1:39 PM	Msg 22009.8 reply to 22009.7
From PingPongPrincess (PingPongPrin) To ALL

At first I was in shock, when Adam told me. Then I called Jason and I couldn't utter a word -- he got impatient with me because he didn't know and I was saying was "um, um." Then I started sobbing uncontrollably and had to tell him three times before he got the message.

There was this great point between John and me in Santa Monica. We've played a few times before, and he always just kills me. There was this spectacular point in the third game -- I remember it was his match point -- and I was smashing and he was lobbing. Then he hit this one back with a crazy amount of sidespin to my forehand and I could see that it was going to bounce pretty close to the net. It was going counter-clockwise to my forehand (I'm right handed). Anyone who knows me knows I HATE sidespin, and this was a really awkward shot. I hit and missed terribly, and he won that match.

He was always so funny. He came to Posse a lot, usually won if Koffee wasn't there. Always had something humorous to say. I would throw the ball to him and he'd open his mouth and pretend to catch the ball in his mouth while he caught the ball with his hand which would be around his stomach.

To a dedicated man. Maybe not close to many but loved by all. The Posse misses you dearly.

-Chloe
Executive Assistant / Event Coordinator
USC Ping Pong Posse
pingpongposse.com

9 of 9 Posted Jun-25 8:28 PM	Msg 22009.9 reply to 22009.8
From billmclaugh To ALL

I first met John in 1986 at the old Burbank Table Tennis Club. He was one of the core members at the time, along with Arnold Lloyd, Bernard Savitz (later) and a dozen others, and he also played at Rich's (Livingston)Workshop, and the N. Hollywood TTC.

I never beat him in a match. I'm not even sure if I ever took a game off of him. He had a deceptive style using the Seemiller grip; an off the bounce hard push working the angles; a fine down the line topspin/sidespin loop, and has been viewed in a video, a good lob defense.

He was also quite a jokester and wisecracker. If you bobbled the ball prior to serving, he'd always ask: "was that a serve?" He had a joke published in a Table Tennis Topics magazine back in the 80s - something like: "When is a He a she? When it's He Zhili" (a chinese woman player).

I corresponded with him a few months back via email as he saw a few of my posts in this forum.

The U.S. table tennis world is lesser with his passing.

Bill M.

Table Tennis Dayton

Edited Jun-25 by billmclaugh

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10 of 10 Posted 11:44 PM	Msg 22009.10 reply to 22009.9
From anticanti To billmclaugh Unread

I have not posted on this form for many moons, but I knew John for many years

My recollection is that he went to school in Northern California, maybe Berkeley, and that he was an optometrist. I do not believe he practiced recently

He was a Seemiller style blocker with pips on one side, which he never really used . He basically blocked, but also had a sidespin loop. I first played him in the early 80s and played him 100s of times both at clubs and tournaments

He had a great sense of humor and loved playing doubles. He also played TT nearly every day at various places. He really knew equipment and brought a cooler containing Gatorade and bananas.He also would bring a notebook with pages from various internet sites

He tried really hard, but was a good sportsman

I am really shocked by his passing

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Braithwaite, George

2005 US Nationals Championships

Rating before tournament: 2266

Rating after tournament: 2217

Rating change: -49

see complete history for Braithwaite, George

Event
Results

Score

Rating +/-

Wins

Senior Men's Esquire Singles 60+

Guillory, Ralph (1762) complete history

9,-9,5,8 0

Senior Men's Singles 40+

Sidorov, Viktor (2016) complete history

4,8,-6,7 0

Senior Men's Singles 40+

Liu, Michael (1801) complete history

2,9,3 0

U-2300 Rr

Lee, Bunny (2101) complete history

-8,6,4,10 2

U-2300 Rr

Savitz, Bernard (1994) complete history

-6,8,6,4 0

U-2300 Rr

Mast, Jennifer Mae (2013) complete history

7,-10,6,9 0

U-2300 Rr

Fong, Atha (2036) complete history

-8,9,9,-10,5 1

U-2400 Singles

Schneider, John (2128) complete history

6,5,-8,9 2

Veteran Rr 70+

Misbach, Grant (1549) complete history

4,5,8 0

Veteran Rr 70+

Reising, Bob (1492) complete history

3,5,7 0

Veteran Rr 70+

Mintsiveris, Nick (2066) complete history

3,8,5 1

Veteran Rr 70+

Wolfe, Wes (1883) complete history

7,4,11 0

Veteran Rr 70+

Gordon, Grady C (1963) complete history

5,7,5 0

Losses

Senior Men's Esquire Singles 60+

Ryan, Bill (1966) complete history

-6,8,8,6 -50

Senior Men's Singles 40+

Samari, Ramin R. (2353) complete history

-7,11,8,10 -5

Schneider, John

2005 US Nationals Championships

Rating before tournament: 2128

Rating after tournament: 2118

Rating change: -10

see complete history for Schneider, John

Event
Results

Score

Rating +/-

Wins

U-2200 Rr

Seemiller Jr., Daniel R. (2004) complete history

10,7,-7,5 3

U-2200 Rr

Ronin, Michael (1936) complete history

8,5,5 1

U-2300 Rr

Wang, Alex (2051) complete history

2,12,2 5

U-2300 Rr

Rivera Alicea, Joe M. (1835) complete history

-7,6,5,4 0

U-2400 Singles

Fan, Alden (2188) complete history

-4,7,7,-4,12 13

Losses

Men's Singles And Team Trials

Yao, Justen (2213) complete history

7,7,-6,9 -5

U-2200 Rr

Wang, Joseph (2052) complete history

11,-6,9,5 -16

U-2300 Rr

Snider, Nicholas (2205) complete history

-8,7,5,6 -5

U-2300 Rr

Alto, Earl James (2236) complete history

-5,3,8,6 -4

U-2400 Singles

Braithwaite, George (2266) complete history

6,5,-8,9 -2

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