Homa Wong vs. Robert Trudell

31st Annual Golden State Open

Redwood Shores, CA vs. Mesa, AZ

Under 1850 Singles Preliminary Round Robin Group

Table Tennis Match Video

The Tice Valley Community Gym

2055 Tice Valley Blvd.

Walnut Creek, California

11 June 2005

 

Homa Wong serves to Robert Trudell in the U1850 Singles RR Group

Homa Wong vs. Robert Trudell - wmv Video Part 1 (34 Mbytes, Length 6:09)

Robert Trudell vs. Homa Wong - wmv Video Part 2 (21 Mbytes, Length 3:48)

 

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Homa penhold loops.

Rob counter-block kills Homa's slam.

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Hi All,

   Table Tennis gives a lot to stress to your knees. As I know, in the old day, member of China National Team all have knees problem. Table Tennis's quick start and stop, and the side movement are just too much for your knees to handle.

    So, what kind of physical training you do to strengthen your knees? And do you do any message (how) or action to protect your knees? How about during training?

I started Table Tennis 20 years ago, when I was 7 or 8. When I was 17~19, my knees were injured because of over exercise (I used to play Basketball and then Table Tennis straight for 8 hours). Back then, my knees were so bad that after I duck down, I can't stand up by myself. I got some physical therapy, and it got better. Now, I start playing Table Tennis again last Sept. And my knees starts to hurt around Feb or March. I don't want to stop table tennis because of another injury.

Please give some suggestions. Thanks.

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yea, i have the same problem, my right knee especially. My coach said some of it was to do with my stance and movement of my legs when i play a forehand, as when im transferring my weight from my right leg to left leg, i always twist my knee sort of and put all the pressure on my right knee.
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Homa,

You might consider seeing a Physical Therapist. I blew out my ACL a few years ago (indoor soccer). During rehab, they gave me lots of different excercises that strengthened the muscles supporting my knee. Assuming you have no significant existing damage (ligaments or miniscus) they could help significantly.

A PT should be able to isolate the specific execises you'll need.

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The best thing for you is to start taking supplements based on gluckosamine and condroine. Those 2 together with vitamine C are naturally found as substances in human joints and are lubricating them. With age (and excesive training) human capability to produce them is reduced and that it why it is really necessary for people who train a lot to take those food supplements on regular basis. I had a terrible knee injury (broken patella) and was thinking that could have problems with running and sport in general, but luckly I recovered completely and these supplement are of a great help for me.  

They are 100 % natural and safe for human body. You will start feeling better in 2 weeks and will hacve no pain at all. 80% of people who took them expressed great improvement and releife from pain.

One example of such a product is Flex-a-min produced by Natural Wealth or Elasty Joint by ????? (sorry do not remeber).

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Thanks everyone

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kresimir wrote:

The best thing for you is to start taking supplements based on gluckosamine and condroine.

 

do u mean chondrotine? is Flex-A-Min a prescription drug?

Thanks

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Yura, I recon the right spelling is chondroitine. Here (in Croatia) one may purchuase Flex-A-Min without doctor's prescription. If you can not find it in Canada I am sure you can find other brand's products, such as Muscletech (Made in Canada), Universal Nutritions....

More tips:  I can not emphasise enough the importance of warming up and light stretching (especially after weight training sessions)!  If you happen to suffer a slight injury to one of the joints you may do what FC Arsenal's club medic does, a so called cold-hot treatment. You treat injured part with cold water (15 sec) and right after with hot water (15 sec) for 5-10 min. It helps speeding up the blood circulation and the body heals itself. This seems to be a very efective recovery method and you may treat your legs like this under shower after long training sessions.

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Kresimir, I really appreciate. followed by your advice, I just bought "Glucosamine,Chondroitin&MSM". I didn't find the medicine you recommended, since this one has the right ingredient, I think it will help too. Thanks again.
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For sure it will. Follow the usage instructions and report me back in 2-3 weeks. It is really nice feeling when you get up in the morning and do not hear all those nasty creeking sound coming from your joints.

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yulske wrote:
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I tried a lot before. Really no use for my knees, and only made me sleepy.

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Yulske, you must know that with you teenagers nkees are still in good shape, but wait till you reach our age (~30). I am sure you will appriciate this kind of  advices more.

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yeah, but....ill be asking that adivice in like 15 years...

so until then...



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I think there is supposed to be a proper way to run in order not to ruin your knees...
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shoes play a big part in it, good running technique is important too....

i learned about all this when i was a 100m sprinter and long jumper



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never buy cheap table tennis shoes

they will DESTROY your knees in the long run

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how does the cheap tabletennis shoes wreck ur knees?

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Do you have anything to report yura and homa? Any improvement?

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Thanks kresimir, no improvement so far. I am taking a medicine with Glucosamine,Chondroitin as ingredients for already 3 weeks. My right knee is more feeble now(that's probably because I'm still playing), and I have to use my hands to supprt myself even when I get out of my car. one of my friends suggests me to do icing, do u think it will help?

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I think it does help me a bit.

My knees currently is about the same as when I start taking the pills. i.e, the knees still have a craking sound when I duck (but I think the sound is not as loud as it was). Also, it doesn't hurt during the session.

Considering I am training pretty hard lately, I would assume my knees would get worst.

I'm taking the pill and doing acupuncture together. I think both helps.

Again, thanks for the information. Much appreciated. I'll keep testing and see how it goes.
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i use ice on the knee 10 min gentile massage with the ice (from the refrigerator) and after that another 15 min massage with diclofenac gel, before sleeping and i find it wery relaxing for the knee
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and i use Celebrex (made by pfizer) 1 every day in the morning
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now my knee hurts too. Just went to see orthopedic and was told need physical therapy and must wear knee support specially for sports while playing table tennis. He also gave me some supplements and celebrex too.
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I was having problem with my knees and back pain. Went for treatment called Panabaa Release (check the site at http://www.panabaa.com/ ) It involves finding your tense muscles and releasing the tension so that you stay loose and can move easily.

Since then my knees and back have been much much better - no aching at night and no pain during the day. What a relief! I was a bit sceptical but I've got to say it has worked for me - which is pretty good since I'm a defender and still a bit heavy and my knees and back are probably getting a bit of a pounding the way I play!

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gotta lose weight to reduce strain on knees,

i had a knee problem and went to the physio, she gave me lots of exercises to strengthen the muscles protecting your knee, e.g. do a 1/3 squat with your back leaning on the wall and stay in that position as long as possible. you can feel your inner thigh muscles leading to the knee really straining, its excellent

and stretching.

as for pills etc, no idea, im only 19, hehehhe



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ssiew968 wrote:
now my knee hurts too. Just went to see orthopedic and was told need physical therapy and must wear knee support specially for sports while playing table tennis. He also gave me some supplements and celebrex too.


what supplements?
how about loosing kg?
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Homa wrote:
Hi All, 

  
Please give some suggestions. Thanks.

Homa

I'd be careful not to stomp when hitting the ball.

http://tt.mainstreet.net/ttoutpost/Homa_Wong_vs_Robert_Trudell_31st_Golden_State_Open.htm

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Concord Table Tennis Club
*The 31th Annual*
Golden State Table Tennis Open Tournament

June 11-12, 2005
at
Tice Valley Community Gym, Walnut Creek

sponsored by Butterfly and Paddle Palace

and the Winners are:

Event Champion 2nd Place 3rd Place/SemiFinalist 4th Place/SemiFinalist
Open Singles Stefan Feth Khoa Nguyen Freddie Gabriel Barney Reed Jr.
Women Atha Fong Collen Lee Stephanie Chow Fumi Christensen
Under 2450 Freddie Gabriel Yong Ren Anh Tuan Nguyen Martin Kosan
Under 2300 Peter Zajac Quan Huynh James Therriault Guang-Kui Dong
Under 2150 Dennis Yi Quan Huynh Kevin Phung Walter Guan
Under 2000 Terry Tam Cheung Wong David Rudesill Aroni Banerjee
Open Doubles Freddie Gabriel/Peter Zajac Khoa Nguyen/Wei-Yang Wu Michael Hyatt/Trevor Runyan Kevin Au, Anh Nguyen
Juniors Under 18 Sean C. Lee Kevin Phung Trevor Runyan Joseph Wang
Juniors Under 12 Lily Zhang Brian Chen Jennifer Blaha Natalie Sun
3400 Doubles Channing Chan/Johnny Huang Stanley Sun/Victor Qui Hung-Jen Hung/Barry Or Terrance Chan/Jack Cheung
2800 Doubles Mark Johnson/Lisa Liang Ron Buxton/Jonathan Chang Rod Dorse/David Smith Barry Or/Nickolay Romensky
Seniors (40+) Yong Ren James Therriault Bunny Lee Peter Chen
Esquires (50+) Peter Chen Kock Loe Mark Johnson Peter Tsang
Sr. Esquires (60+) Guang-Kui Dong Peter Chen Cheung Wong Joe Ching
Veterans (70+) Carlos Ortegon Hackie Honda Harriet Brin Ivan Majdrakoff
Under 1850 Stanley Sun Tri Tran Barry Or Matthew Faccini
Under 1700 Terence Chan Stephen Adams Chew Wong Donald Chang
Under 1500 Kevin Lin Umesh Kukreja Kent Hu Hung-Jen Hung
Under 1300 Lily Zhang Felix Lu David Dubose Barry Sia
Under 1100 Barry Sia Daniel Redden Ione Chan Annie Liu
Under 800 Victor Kretov Nissi Wusan Steven Li Dennis Brody
Under 500 Natalie Sun Amit Patel Cornelius Chan Hugh Harsono

(Concord Table Tennis Club members in italics)

To all the Winners, Congratulations!

To all the players who participated with the spirit of sportmanship, thank you for helping make this tournament a success and hope to see you again next year.

To all our sponsors, thank you very much for you generosity.

And to all members and non-members who gave so much of your time to helped make this tournament a success - especially those who helped to set up the gym, ran the registration/control desk and concession stand, referee matches, take down the equipment and clean up the gym - a big THANK YOU - this tournament would not have been possible without your help.

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Program Design: Phil Schafer
T-Shirt Design: Rich Butler
Logistics/Setup/Take down: Phil Schafer, Ron Buxton, Hackie Honda, Phil Hudson, David Hanson, Terrance Chan, Bill Lui, Dennis Lui, Do Tran, Anil Dhupelia, Fran Guidry, Henry Chan, Ione Chan, Yau-Man Chan
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Nguyen, Han V.

Golden State Open 

Rating before tournament: 0 (adjusted to 1740)

Rating after tournament: 1731

Rating change: 1731

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Trudell, Robert (1811) complete history
9,7,-5,8 -5
 
Tesar, Barry (1839) complete history
-11,7,5,6 -4

 

RESULTS FOR:    Wong, Homa

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Sacramento Winter Open  2/26/2005   0 1561  1561  8   3 - 5 

 

Trudell, Robert

Golden State Open 

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Nguyen, Han V. (1740) complete history
9,7,-5,8 5
 
Wong, Homa (1561) complete history
9,4,8 0
 
Bezvikonny, Sergiy (1326) complete history
4,-9,6,8 0
 
Tran, Do (1428) complete history
7,3,8 0
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Yu, Nelson (2085) complete history
5,9,8 -0
 
Ren, Yong (2348) complete history
4,5,2 -0
 
Bartley, Lennox (2113) complete history
7,9,7 -0
 
Runyan, Trevor (2218) complete history
8,6,10 -0
 
Cheng, Horace (2064) complete history
7,11,-8,4 -0
 
Zajac, Peter (2265) complete history
5,7,5 -0
 
Berg, Mark (1959) complete history
6,-10,6,8 -2
 
Yi, Dennis (2136) complete history
9,8,-8,4 -0
 
Tesar, Barry (1839) complete history
-9,-3,7,6,8 -7
 
Mattos Jr., Antonio (1642) complete history
8,-8,9,-3,8 -35

 

RESULTS FOR:    Trudell, Robert

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Grand Canyon State Summer Games  6/4/2005   1803 1812  5   3 - 2 
Arizona Closed  4/17/2005   1819 1803  -16  11   5 - 6 
Grand Canyon State Winter Games  3/13/2005   1853 1819  -34  11   7 - 4 
Arizona Open  2/20/2005   1846 1853  13   8 - 5 
2004 USA Nationals Championships  12/18/2004   1814 1846  32  8   7 - 1 
Valley of the Sun Open  12/5/2004   1744 1814  70  22   13 - 9 
Phoenix Open  10/24/2004   1655 1744  89  20   12 - 8 
SoCal Open  10/10/2004   1650 1655  9   5 - 4 
Arizona Sizzler Open  8/15/2004   1654 1650  -4  12   6 - 6 
Grand Canyon State Games  6/20/2004   1611 1654  43  7   3 - 4 
Best of the West Open  6/13/2004   1627 1611  -16  7   2 - 5 
Arizona Closed  4/25/2004   1633 1627  -6  7   5 - 2 
Grand Canyon State Games  3/13/2004   1632 1633  4   3 - 1 
Arizona Open  2/15/2004   1633 1632  -1  8   7 - 1 
Valley of the Sun Open  11/30/2003   1615 1633  18  4   4 - 0 
Grand Canyon State 2003 Summer Games  6/22/2003   1628 1615  -13  3   1 - 2 
Arizona Sizzler  5/25/2003   1741 1628  -113  5   0 - 5 
Arizona Open  3/30/2002   1744 1741  -3  3   2 - 1 
The 2001 Outpost Open  11/18/2001   1752 1744  -8  3   1 - 2 
Best of the West  10/20/2001   1740 1752  12  4   4 - 0 
6th Lake Havasu Open - AZ  9/16/2001   1811 1740  -71  9   2 - 7 
Grand Canyon State Games  6/16/2001   1785 1811  26  5   3 - 2 
2001 Arizona Open  3/25/2001   1730 1785  55  5   5 - 0 
Grand Canyon State Games  3/3/2001   1751 1730  -21  6   2 - 4 
Grand Canyon State Games  6/17/2000   1830 1751  -79  3   0 - 3 
AZ State Championship Pt. 2  6/16/2000   1816 1830  14  3   3 - 0 
Golden State Open  5/28/2000   1831 1816  -15  5   0 - 5 
Eastern Open on the No. Amer Tour  5/14/2000   1877 1831  -46  13   3 - 10 
3rd Annual Maryland Medallion Championsh  5/6/2000   1899 1877  -22  11   9 - 2 
Arizona State Championships  4/22/2000   1934 1899  -35  5   2 - 3 
2000 Millennium Madness Open  3/13/2000   1924 1934  10  12   9 - 3 
Arizona Open  2/27/2000   1946 1924  -22  7   5 - 2 
US Nationals  12/19/1999   1861 1946  85  22   12 - 10 
Valley of the Sun Open  12/4/1999   1813 1861  48  15   10 - 5 
TT&M Fall Open  10/24/1999   1822 1813  -9  9   6 - 3 
Lake Havasu Open  9/19/1999   1821 1822  2   1 - 1 
Teams and More Open  8/29/1999   1815 1821  6   4 - 2 
Arizona Sizzler Giant RR  7/31/1999   1799 1815  16  9   5 - 4 
Grand Canyon State Games  6/20/1999   1684 1799  115  10   7 - 3 
Arizona State Championship  4/25/1999   1636 1684  48  5   5 - 0 
Colorado River Open  3/28/1999   845 1486  641  6   4 - 2 
Arizona Open  3/21/1999   1639 1633  -6  3   1 - 2 
Valley of the Sun Open  12/6/1998   1723 1639  -84  9   3 - 6 
TT&M Fall Open  10/25/1998   1823 1723  -100  4   2 - 2 
Lake Havasu Open  9/20/1998   1874 1823  -51  5   2 - 3 
Golden State Open  5/24/1998   1849 1874  25  8   3 - 5 
Arizona State Championship  5/17/1998   1853 1849  -4  6   4 - 2 
Colorado River Open  3/29/1998   1860 1853  -7  8   6 - 2 
1998 Arizona Open  2/22/1998   1846 1860  14  8   5 - 3 
1997 Valley of the Sun Open  12/7/1997   1928 1846  -82  3   0 - 3 
Lake Havasu  9/21/1997   1932 1928  -4  3   2 - 1 
1997 Arizona Open Sizzler  8/3/1997   1967 1932  -35  5   3 - 2 
U.S. Open  7/6/1997   1940 1967  27  13   6 - 7 
23rd Annual Golden State Open  5/25/1997   1956 1940  -16  10   5 - 5 
Tucson Open  5/18/1997   1948 1956  4   4 - 0 
1997 Arizona Closed  4/26/1997   1930 1948  18  8   7 - 1 
1997 Arizona Open  2/23/1997   1946 1930  -16  3   2 - 1 
Arizona Open Winter Warm-up  12/8/1996   1936 1946  10  10   8 - 2 
U.S. Open Team Championships  12/1/1996   1871 1936  65  15   6 - 9 
1996 Tucson Invitational  10/27/1996   1874 1871  -3  3   2 - 1 
Lake Havasu Open TTT  9/22/1996   1850 1874  24  9   8 - 1 
Arizona Sizzle Open  8/18/1996   1857 1850  -7  3   2 - 1 
California State Open  6/23/1996   1851 1857  4   1 - 3 
1996 Tucson Open TTT  6/15/1996   1851 1851  5   4 - 1 
Arizona Closed  4/21/1996   1846 1851  10   8 - 2 
Arizona Open TTT  2/18/1996   1838 1846  9   7 - 2 
USATT National Championships  12/18/1995   1942 1838  -104  18   5 - 13 
Arizona Valley of the Sun Open  12/3/1995   1795 1942  147  11   11 - 0 
Rich Livingston Memorial  9/3/1995   1811 1795  -16  4   0 - 4 
AZ Summer Classic (Closed)  8/13/1995   1835 1811  -24  6   3 - 3 
1995 Golden State Open  5/28/1995   1857 1835  -22  4   0 - 4 
Arizona Closed TTT  4/23/1995   1872 1857  -15  6   4 - 2 
Arizona Open TTT  3/5/1995   1790 1872  82  7   5 - 2 
Dr. Wang Chinese New Year Open  2/5/1995   1803 1790  -13  4   0 - 4 
Valley of the Sun Open TTT  12/4/1994   1716 1805  89  9   8 - 1 
1994 Summer Classic  8/21/1994   1731 1716  -15  10   6 - 4 
US Open  7/4/1994   1703 1731  28  6   5 - 1 
West Covina 1994 Open  6/5/1994   1706 1703  -3  9   4 - 5 
Arizona Closed  4/24/1994   1658 1706  48  7   4 - 3 
Rialto Spring Open  4/9/1994   1635 1658  23  8   3 - 5 
1994 Chinese New Year All Star  3/20/1994   1631 1635  6   2 - 4 
Arizona Open  2/20/1994   1721 1631  -90  9   2 - 7 

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