Marco Borrillo vs. Robert Bryant Jr.

Open Singles Round Robin Group

Arizona Open Table Tennis Tournament

Match Video

ARCH, 1550 W. Colter Ave. 

Phoenix, Arizona - AZ, USA

19 February 2006

 

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Marco Borrillo vs. Robert Bryant Jr.

 

 

 

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2 of 38     Posted Feb-28 10:22 PM Msg 21181.2 reply to 21181.1 MarcoHere
From MarcoHereMesssage 21181.2
To  Robert Trudell (mesapong)     

I thought I asked you not to post any video of me without asking me first.  I remember clearly asking you not to post anything from this tournament.  Do you disrespect my wishes on purpose?  Does a player have a right not to be videotaped or is it a given that if you enter a tournament you must subject yourself to be videotaped? 

I don't mind you posting things every now and then if I give you consent, but I don't like this sneaking around taking footage and then posting it against my wishes. 

This is wrong, and you shouldn't be allowed to do this.

Please take this down and don't post any more video of me unless I give you consent. 

Marco

 

 

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3 of 38     Posted Mar-1 7:54 AM Msg 21181.3 reply to 21181.2 Robert Trudell (mesapong)
From Robert Trudell (mesapong)Messsage 21181.3
To  MarcoHere     

Look closely and you'll see you aren't the only person playing.

It is a public event. People watched it as it happened; should people that weren't able to see it then be prevented from watching it?

I enjoyed watching the players next to the table you played on in the same video.

--Rob

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5 of 38     Posted Mar-1 10:24 AM Msg 21181.5 reply to 21181.2 Robert Trudell (mesapong)
From Robert Trudell (mesapong)Messsage 21181.5
To  MarcoHere     

I was particularly interested in this match with Robert Bryant since I overheard you warning Robert for stalling several time and then called Len out to Umpire the match.

 

 

It also appeared you gave Robert some kind of warning for his service.

 

 

It reminded me of the first match we played you called Chris Castro out to umpire the match when you believed it was illegal to hide serves.  Of course it wasn’t at that time.

 

 

--Rob

 


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6 of 38     Posted Mar-1 10:57 AM Msg 21181.6 reply to 21181.4 MarcoHere
From MarcoHereMesssage 21181.6
To  Robert Trudell (mesapong)     

Rob this is ridiculous.  I asked you not to post any videos of me from this tournament.  You did anyway- on 3 different forums! 

Your post was deleted and now you repost it.  This is a blatant disregard for my wishes. 

Surely I have the right to decide whether or not my matches are posted on the internet right?  Now please take this down from ALL forums. 

I will let you post video of me in the future, but I want that done when I feel I'm ready not when you feel you want to.  I even asked you several times if you were filming me and you said that you weren't going to. 

This is not the first time you post pictures and video of me that I didn't want you to.  I think maybe I have to file a complaint with USATT and our TD.  You are abusing the privilege of filming. 

Marco

 

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7 of 38     Posted Mar-1 1:54 PM Msg 21181.7 reply to 21181.6 Robert Trudell (mesapong)
From Robert Trudell (mesapong)Messsage 21181.7
To  MarcoHere     

I think the behavior in this match is just as worthy of evaluation as that of the USATT Board meeting minutes.

--Rob

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8 of 38     Posted Mar-1 3:48 PM Msg 21181.8 reply to 21181.7 MarcoHere
From MarcoHereMesssage 21181.8
To  Robert Trudell (mesapong)     

"I think the behavior in this match is just as worthy of evaluation as that of the USATT Board meeting minutes.

--Rob"

Rob, I disagree.  I was professional all the way through this match.  At the end, I shook hands with the ump and the opponent.  I didn't lose my temper at all, even though there were several instances of stalling and hidden serves going on. 

But besides all that, I don't think you have the right to video tape and post on the internet matches besides your own.  If I agreed to let you post a vid of me, and my opponent asked you not to, then you shouldn't.  If both opponents are in agreement, then it can be posted. 

At least, that's the way I would like it to be.  I'm going to send an email to a few TD's, including USATT ump chair, and see what the official oppinion is.  Maybe they will say that anyone who enters a tournament is subject to be videotaped and posted on the net?  I don't know, but until I hear some official word, it would be nice if you would take down this video. 

You should have the class and the character to ask your subjects if they want to be filmed before you film them, even without an official ruling.  You should respect the wishes of those you are filming. 

Marco

 

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9 of 38     Posted Mar-1 3:53 PM Msg 21181.9 reply to 21181.8 Robert Trudell (mesapong)
From Robert Trudell (mesapong)Messsage 21181.9
To  MarcoHere     

> I was professional all the way through this match.  At the end, I shook hands with the ump and the opponent.  I didn't lose my temper at all, even though there were several instances of stalling and hidden serves going on. 

I'm not suggesting you weren't professional. All I know is what I heard while I was playing and I noticed you returned the ball to Robert after a couple serves.  I hadn't seen any stalling yet.

I thought it'd be interesting for others to judge.

I'm saying it is worthy of evaluation and I haven't evaluated it or the Board minutes yet.

--Rob

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10 of 38     Posted Mar-1 4:21 PM Msg 21181.10 reply to 21181.9 MarcoHere
From MarcoHereMesssage 21181.10
To  Robert Trudell (mesapong)     

well I see you still haven't taken down this video.  I guess there can be no more trust between us.  I guess at future tournaments I'll have to run around making sure you don't have a hidden cam somewhere filming me.  That's really immature, Rob.  I don't know why you think you have the right to film whoever you want and post it on 3 forums without permission and despite being asked not to.  Maybe it's a screw loose in your head?  This is a real shame. 

Marco

 

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11 of 38     Posted Mar-1 4:27 PM Msg 21181.11 reply to 21181.10 Robert Trudell (mesapong)
From Robert Trudell (mesapong)Messsage 21181.11
To  MarcoHere     

I'm trying to figure out where the 3rd forum is?

--Rob

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12 of 38     Posted Mar-1 4:35 PM Msg 21181.12 reply to 21181.11 MarcoHere
From MarcoHereMesssage 21181.12
To  Robert Trudell (mesapong)     

about, mytabletennis.net, and your own. 

Thanks Rob, it's really nice to know you respect my privacy.

Marco

 

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13 of 38     Posted Mar-2 1:14 AM Msg 21181.13 reply to 21181.2 kradtt
From kradttMesssage 21181.13
To  MarcoHere     
I wish rob would film me so I can watch myself play and see my own mistakes! but i suck too bad :(
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14 of 38     Posted Mar-2 11:13 AM Msg 21181.14 reply to 21181.13 MarcoHere
From MarcoHereMesssage 21181.14
To  kradtt     

I agree that Rob's videos have value especially to the players he is filming.  It's always good to watch yourself.  But there is a matter of principle that has been violated here.  He has filmed me and posted it against my wishes.  That's just not right. 

Marco

 

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15 of 38     Posted Mar-2 6:36 PM Msg 21181.15 reply to 21181.12 Robert Trudell (mesapong)
From Robert Trudell (mesapong)Messsage 21181.15
To  MarcoHere     

I look at the results of table tennis matches as public records.

I don't see a big leap from recorded match scores to an actual video of the points, games and matches.

I'm certain some people might object to a story or report of their match just as others might of a video.

Along with the ratings database, I'd like to be able to click on the results and view a video of the match.

 

--Rob

http://tt.mainstreet.net/ttoutpost/

 

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16 of 38     Posted Mar-2 7:14 PM Msg 21181.16 reply to 21181.15 pongongong
From pongongongMesssage 21181.16
To  Robert Trudell (mesapong)     

I look at the results of table tennis matches as public records.

I don't see a big leap from recorded match scores to an actual video of the points, games and matches.

What about results from other organized sports, ie NHL, NBA, NCAA or what about the Super Bowl results, are those public records too?

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17 of 38     Posted Mar-2 7:37 PM Msg 21181.17 reply to 21181.16 Robert Trudell (mesapong)
From Robert Trudell (mesapong)Messsage 21181.17
To  pongongong     

> What about results from other organized sports, ie NHL, NBA, NCAA or what about the Super Bowl results, are those public records too?

Yes they are and the scores are free for anyone to report.

I'm certain they do reserve the video rights for themselves to sell.

--Rob

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18 of 38     Posted Mar-2 11:21 PM Msg 21181.18 reply to 21181.15 MarcoHere
From MarcoHereMesssage 21181.18
To  Robert Trudell (mesapong)     

Rob, I tried to call you at home but you didn't answer. 

I don't know how I can get through to you.  I don't know what I did to you to deserve this.  All I can do is ask as nicely as possible.  PLEASE stop posting film of me.  I don't want you to.  I feel self-conscious about it.  I feel I'm not ready to be filmed yet.  I'd like to have the right to decide when I'm ready to be splattered all over the internet. 

Please?  Please stop. 

If there is a moderator alive on this forum, PLEASE take these videos down.  PLEASE. 

Marco

 


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19 of 38     Posted Mar-3 6:48 AM Msg 21181.19 reply to 21181.15 AGOODING2
From AGOODING2Messsage 21181.19
To  Robert Trudell (mesapong)     

I find posting video of someone without their permission and against their expressed wishes an invasion of their privacy.  I see a big difference between match scores/results/tournament reports and video.

Also broadcasting video of professional athletes is different as these are public figures.

I think you should take the videos down.

-- Andrew

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20 of 38     Posted Mar-3 6:57 AM Msg 21181.20 reply to 21181.19 cpbmd
From cpbmdMesssage 21181.20
To  Robert Trudell (mesapong)     

Rob

Cut the guy a  break and take the videos down.   It is no skin off your teeth to do so.

BTW making an analogy to professional sporting events is not accurate.  there is no comparison whatsoever.  these players at TT tournaments are not public sports figures and so not get paid for what they do.  their privacy should not be invaded.

 

Constantine

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